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Nentuaby

Many congratulations!

Darkwinter

Commenting for the first time - to say a big "congratulations" to you both :o)

melissa - myhamptonsmag.com

So Great! Best Wishes for a happy and healthy life together! Truly wonderful!!

yoyo

Well done to the two of you for making your relationship work for so long and so well. One day your descendents and younger realtives will look back at the two of you with such pride!

mandrellian

Good for you guys!
I hope this California decision is just one of 50 more.

And don't let those punks take it away from you. Hopefully there are enough Californians with enough common sense and empathy to shut this innocuously-named "initiative" down.

When my wife and I were planning our wedding, it often occurred to me that our gay friends were indeed being viewed as second-class and, even though they may be able to have a 'civil union' or get married in another state or country, they may never have the legal benefits of marriage in their home country or enjoy the pure, silly romantic joy of a huge, public love-party without that bittersweet feeling that a little something was missing.

All the best to you guys
.M.

arensb

Congratulations! May you live a hundred years and never grow tired of each other.

Marriage is an unbelievably old human institution and human ritual.

Yeah, that was kind of the crucial point for me as well.

I used to think, well, obviously gays couples should be afforded the same legal rights, duties, and protections as straight married couples. On the other hand, the word "marriage" carries a lot of cultural baggage, and people get understandably upset when you start messing with tradition. I can certainly understand that. So I figured, let's have civil unions, or whatever you want to call them, which are legally identical to marriage, but without the cultural baggage that comes with the word "marriage".

Then I realized -- or it was pointed out to me -- that gay couples want the whole marriage package, cultural baggage and all. And that tradition and culture is an important part of getting married.

At which point my attitude changed from "if you're opposed to gay marriage, I don't want to upset you unnecessarily" to "get over it".

arensb

mandrellian:

I hope this California decision is just one of 50 more.

Massachusetts and California already recognize gay marriage. So we need 48 more states to get their act together.

What are the 49th and 50th decisions? Amending federal law, and amending the constitution so that congress can't undo the federal law on a whim?

dgolden

Congratulations! Personally, I've always felt that marriage is in your hearts, not in a government or church sanctioned document. But it is so nice to see the state of California finally recognize what you, your friends, and your families have known for years.

I'm excited for the future, because I believe that gay and lesbian couples can only add to the "sanctity of marriage." Who is more likely to treat their marriage as sacred than those who must fight for the right to be married in the first place?

efrique

Congratulations.

It concerns me that there are practical reasons to get married in the US.

Over here (Australia), I'm not aware of a single financial, legal or other issue, whether to do with taxation, medical insurance, wills, government benefits, or whatever that it makes any difference whether me and my partner are actually married or not, and I have looked about pretty hard. Everything I've ever come across recognises a spousal relationship irrespective or marital status.

[It's possible there is one somewhere (maybe with adoption, because the rules there tend to be very picky, though even there it would surprise me), but I've never even heard of an explicit difference.]

We're not married, but if there was a practical reason to do so, we probably would.

Steph

Congratulations to both of you!

lunalelle

My best wishes and congratulations to you both!

Geoff Arnold

Many, many congratulations.

Rich

Congradulations! I hope the two of you are very happy together.

Chrissie

Congratulations! Would love to see wedding pics posted! Two beautiful wedding dresses to admire! hooray!
are you going to be mrs and mrs?
Wishing you much happiness for the future x x

Leigh Shryock

I'm glad to hear of it. You've been holding out for so long, and you deserve it. Lets hope that this is the start of a much-needed trend.

A rather civil compromise I heard from a republican was this: "Get rid of marriage as a state concept entirely, and replace it with a civil union system that is open to all genders and orientations. Then, if you want to call that a marriage on your own terms, and have a marriage ceremony, feel free to do so."

Eshu

Congratulations! I guess you're also saying, "Thank you California!".

I'm recently married, although we had a great day it was mostly a formality and something partly for the relatives. Our relationship hasn't changed much since - which we're happy about.

Griff

My husband and I got married on the 17th at our local county courthouse. I totally understand and agree with what you've said. It feels different. Better. The world is bigger.

My husband and I talked it over two nights ago, about what these rings and that license and the ceremony mean to us, and one of us (I forget who) said: "It feels completely different now. I no longer feel like we're two teenagers playing house. Getting legally married makes this real, not a game - it makes it permanent, not temporary. It makes it serious."

I hope your marriage ceremony went beautifully. Congratulations!

Nancy

Congratulations on your marriage. I am sincerely happy for you both and I have a gut feeling that the decision will NOT be overturned. I can feel the "mood" of the country slowly changing.....the pendulum swinging left........thankfully.

Goodbye to Bush - If only we could impeach him - I hate the thought that he gets to slither away to Texas w/out answering for his illegal actions.

David Harmon

ArensB: Besides federal, there's also Puerto Rico (And maybe the Virgin Islands too). The national Constitution, IIRC, does not actually discuss marriage, and making it do so might not be wise.

Jim H

Best wishes to you both.

miz_geek

Congratulations! And I totally understand what you mean about marriage being different. It is. It's a public declaration of your relationship, and it means something. Anyway, I'm very happy for you both.

ssjessiechan

Congratulations and the biggest hugs in the world to you both, and to everyone else who is busy changing their lives right now!

I have a feeling it's not going to be overturned, though that doesn't mean it isn't a danger. People in general are pretty apathetic, and now that you've been given the right to marry, and now that they've seen how happy it makes you, I expect most people won't want to try to take it away. That doesn't mean the tyrrany of the few hardliners isn't something to watch out for though. *shakes head* Now's not the time to worry! Go out and change the world through the pure force of your love!

Dean Austin

Congratulations! All happiness in the future.

Kit Whitfield

CONGRATULATIONS!

Anon Ymous

Firstly, congrats! Hope your day was really special :o)

Secondly, to Efrique: I'm also an Aussie, and I can tell you that while you are correct that "spousal" rights don't really care if you're married or not, they *do* care (for federal law, anyway - I think *all the states are better than the federal government in this one) if you're in a same sex relationship or not.

All the things that you get if you're in a marriage or a "Marriage like relationship" (the "spousal" stuff you referenced) have this little definition at the end which states that a "Marriage like relationship" must be between two people of the opposite sex.

Trust me. I've tried filling out my tax with my partner's name as my "de facto" (since we've been living together over 2 years, and are legally de facto on a state level), and had the electronic program give me an error message due to listing both my sex and my partner's as female.

So, yes, if you're in an opposite-sex de facto relationship, you're probably right - no real reason to get married. If you're in a same-sex de facto relationship, I'm guessing you've been filling out tax forms and so forth by hand, and might get a bit of a surprise if you ever get audited...

Blue Linchpin

Congratulations! So much so, I came out of lurking. Best wishes Greta. :)

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