Did you know that when ex-Muslim women are threatened with death for speaking out against Islam, it's partly their own fault for being "provocateurs"?
No, really. According to Nicholas D. Kristof at the New York Times, anyway.
And it's striking me anew just how twisted religious apologists can get when they write about atheists. Twisted to the point where they'll become condescending, trivializing, and patronizing about anyone writing harsh words for religion -- no matter how valid that harshness is, no matter how solidly grounded it is in both hard evidence and personal experience. They'll twist themselves into some truly ugly moral contortions... simply so they won't have to look carefully at the harsh words about religion, and consider whether they might be valid.
Here's the skinny. (Via Pharyngula, of course) In his New York Times review of Ayaan Hirsi-Ali's new book, Nomad, Nicholas D. Kristof had the following to say:
Even now, she needs bodyguards.That's partly because she is by nature a provocateur, the type of person who rolls out verbal hand grenades by reflex.
And this:
After her father's death, Hirsi Ali connects by telephone with her aging and long-estranged mother living in a dirt-floor hut in Somalia. Hirsi Ali asks forgiveness, but the conversation goes downhill when her mother pleads with her to return to Islam. Near tears, her mother asks: "Why are you so feeble in faith?... You are my child and I can't bear the thought of you in hell.""I am feeble in faith because Allah is full of misogyny," Hirsi Ali thinks to herself. "I am feeble in faith because faith in Allah has reduced you to a terrified old woman -- because I don't want to be like you." What she says aloud is: "When I die I will rot." (For my part, I couldn't help thinking that perhaps Hirsi Ali's family is dysfunctional simply because its members never learned to bite their tongues and just say to one another: "I love you.") [emphasis mine]
And this:
Her memoir suggests that she never quite outgrew her rebellious teenager phase, but also that she would be a terrific conversationalist at a dinner party.
Okay. Deep breath. Calm blue ocean, calm blue ocean. We all know who Ayaan Hirsi-Ali is, right? Author, politician, atheist activist? The woman whose Muslim family had a clitoridectomy performed on her when she was five years old? The woman whose Muslim family tried to force her into an arranged marriage with her cousin? The woman who, for several years now, has had to live under extraordinarily heightened security, due to serious threats on her life from Muslim extremists because of her outspoken criticism of Islam?
You'd think that if anyone on this planet had a right to speak out with passionate rage at religion, it'd be Ayaan Hirsi-Ali.
But apparently not. Apparently, Hirsi-Ali's passionate rage at religion comes about because "she never quite outgrew her rebellious teenager phase." Apparently, Hirsi-Ali's problems with her family stem from the fact that she can't bite her tongue and say "I love you" -- and not from, oh, say, the fact that they cut off her clitoris when she was five, and then tried to force her into an arranged marriage.
And apparently -- for the sweet love of Loki and all the gods in Valhalla, I am not making this up, it's right there in black and white in the New York Times -- the reason she needs bodyguards is that she's "by nature a provocateur, the type of person who rolls out verbal hand grenades by reflex."Right. Her need for bodyguards couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that she dares to speak out against religious extremists who have an extensive history of trying to silence criticism with violence, and who have openly threatened her with death. It's her provocative nature that's at least partly to blame. She really ought to control her tongue. Maybe she should say "I love you" more.
I'm not going to get into Kristof's "it's so unfair to focus on the violent misogyny so prevalent in Islam, when there are nice moderate Muslims who are hospitable to guests and do wonderful charity work" line. (Except to point out, as Stephen Fry did about the Catholic Church child rape scandal, that when someone's been accused of torture and rape, it's not generally considered a valid defense to say, "But you didn't mention what nice birthday present I bought for my father!")
That's not where I want to go. And even if it was, I'm not sure I could go there.
Because Kristof's patronization, his condescension, his trivialization of Hirsi-Ali's experiences with religion and her entirely valid rage about them is making me so angry, I can barely see straight.
Can Kristof really not hear what he sounds like? Does he really not get what it sounds like to express greater concern about Hirsi-Ali's "strident," "overheated," "over-the-top exaggerations" than he does about a religion that cuts off girls' clitorises and then tries to kill them when they complain about it? Is he really that unwilling to consider the possibility that harsh criticism and passionate rage against religion might be valid... so unwilling that he'll twist himself into a moral pretzel to avoid looking at it? Is he really so ethically tone-deaf?
But there I go again: just another angry atheist with my strident, overheated rhetoric. I guess I haven't outgrown my rebellious teenager phase. I really should learn to shut up when I see outrages committed in the name of religion, and simply say "I love you" instead. I guess I'm just a provocateur by nature, reflexively rolling out those mean old verbal hand grenades.
Let's hope that one of them hits Kristof squarely on the ass.








I couldn't agree with you more. For some reason, I expected better from Kristof. I have been noticing an unsettling trend in his writing recently.
Posted by: Sean | June 04, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Well, you know, violence against women almost always happens because women have it coming to them. They're too sexy, too smart, too outspoken, too independent.... But, to Ali's credit, even though she's an overgrown teenager (read: immature, silly female), all the other dinner guests fall all over themselves to get the seat at the table next to hers. /snark
I don't think Ali's verbal hand grenades will be hitting Kristoff on the ass anytime soon; you've already torn out big chunks of it with your own well-aimed grenade. Kristoff got exactly what was coming to him.
Posted by: the chaplain | June 04, 2010 at 02:03 PM
"...its members never learned to bite their tongues and just say to one another: “I love you.”"
That statement really bothers me. It sounds like he's arguing in favor of repressing justified emotional reactions in order to keep the peace - silent submission as a virtue.
"But if those were the only faces of Islam, it wouldn’t be one of the fastest-growing religions in the world today. "
When everybody in a particular region is forced to show deference to a religion on fear of ostracism or even death, I'd say that might just be one cause for that religion's growth.
"“I don’t want to create the impression that all people from Muslim countries or tribal societies are aggressive,” she writes — and then she proceeds to do just that."
Ok, I haven't read the book, so maybe she does - but if that is what she does, the part he goes on to quote certainly doesn't support the point. Nowhere in the quoted statement does she refer to the individuals as being by nature violent, rather she talks about Islam as a cultural, educational institution. It's a distinction that regularly seems to fly over the heads of detractors of people openly critical of religion.
Oh, and a quick aside Greta - I really wanted to come to the SF meeting last Saturday and couldn't make it. If anyone recorded your presentation and will be posting it please let us know.
Posted by: Barbara_K | June 04, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Didn't she have her entire vagina sewn shut to be able to prove that she was still a virgin on her "inevitable" wedding day? It just makes me sick the things people do, especially in the name of "morality."
Posted by: Alan Eckert | June 04, 2010 at 02:36 PM
This kind of ignorance is all the more infuriating because Nick Kristof has written so many good, important things about Third World poverty, about feminism and women's rights. Yet he seems to have this blind spot when it comes to religion - an instinctive desire to excuse any evil that religious groups do, because not all religious people are like that.
As for Ayaan Hirsi Ali being a "provocateur", it's clearly just because she likes to stir up trouble. It's completely unrelated to the fact that her own family had her genitals mutilated; beat and tortured her on countless occasions; taught her to be silent and subservient to men; and tried to send her into a slave marriage to a perfect stranger, and disowned her when she stood up for herself. It's completely unrelated to, say, her growing up in Saudi Arabia where every night she heard the screams of women in neighboring buildings being beaten by their husbands, or the fact that a close friend of hers was shot to death in the street because he shot a movie that made some people unhappy. Nope, all this is her fault and could have been avoided if she had just been nicer to everyone. Do these people even listen to themselves?
Posted by: Ebonmuse | June 04, 2010 at 09:43 PM
Kristof cut her just a little more slack than your review lets on and seems to focus his requests for moderation to preserving internal family feeling. In several places, he says she's right.
But he lacks empathy and his appeal to the possibility she hasn't grown up remains inexcusable.
It's a conflicted review.
Posted by: Jon | June 05, 2010 at 08:23 AM
Addendum: In the part you put in boldface, it's actually unclear to me if the mandate to "bite your tongue" is being directed (by Kristof) to AHA or her parents or both!!! For this reason, it is not quite as damning to me. Am I cutting NK too much slack? Am I wrong?
Posted by: Jon | June 05, 2010 at 10:41 AM
I'd go further than Ebonmuse in saying that Kristoff has several blond spots. About 2 years ago when the Spitzer scandal was taking place, Kristoff jumped on board with the whole "sex industry = sex trafficking" crowd and used his bully pulpit to repeat the distorted statistics coming from this group. Like Chris Hedges, he seems to be one of several "liberal" pundits and public intellectuals absolutely committed to making asses out of themselves on subjects like sexuality and religion. It seems like this is part of a larger trend toward a new social conservatism among at least some boomer liberals.
Posted by: Iamcuriousblue | June 05, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Jon: Yes, this was a mixed/ conflicted review -- and that's irrelevant. It does not excuse the patronizing, condescending, dismissive tone.
And the mandate to "bite your tongue" seemed very clearly to be aimed at the entire family, i.e. both Hirsi Ali and her mother. Which, again, does not excuse it.
Yes, IMO, you're cutting him too much slack.
Posted by: Greta Christina | June 05, 2010 at 01:12 PM
It's the "rebellious teenager" bit that got to me most.
As for the "hospitality" spiel: maybe they're hospitable to men, but I've yet to hear of predominantly muslim countries being all that "hospitable" to women.
Posted by: FromThe3rdStomachOfChutulu | June 05, 2010 at 05:21 PM
One female genital mutilation is a tragedy, a thousand is statistics.
I think that's part of why people are able to bursh aside Hirsi-Ali's experiences as so much teenage rebellion. I mean, if everyone does it, that must just be how they roll in Those Places, right?
And of course, you can substitute FGM with any of the other horrendous things experienced by women in Muslim countries. Yes, women in other countries experience horrendous things too, but that's beside the point. There really, really is a culture of rape and victim-blaming in these theocracies. Honor killings are not an urban myth.
Anyway, if her family loves one another but have been unable to say it, that's part of the problem too. Consider a similar situation in the culture of the Southern or Midwestern US. When a man is unwilling to say he loves his son because his son is gay, that man is simultaneously a culprit and (to a smaller extent) a victim of homophobia. The whole thing needs to come crashing down.
Regarding the conversation which prompted that comment on Kristof's part…
"You are my child and I can't bear the thought of you in hell."
"When I die I will rot."
Isn't it amazing how the second one initially sounds "harsher" to our ears than the first? It did to me, anyway. Then I remembered what "Hell" is supposed to mean. I don't think that religious people always remember.
Theists keep telling atheists, "Don't say that it all ends at death. That's awful! People need to be comforted!"
Even putting aside whether that's a good argument, it misses an extremely crucial point: Only one worldview, one mindset, is capable of convincing people that there's a very, very real risk that they and the people they love could suffer and suffer and suffer forever and ever after they die. Atheists didn't contribute that concept to the conversation.
By contrast to such a fate, "I will rot" is a beautiful thing to contemplate. If her mother had said, "Ayaan, I worry that after you die, your body is going to rot", that would, by definition, have been an infinitely more loving thing to say.
Kristof might be one of those people who doesn't think anyone really takes the notion of Hell seriously. I dunno. All I can say is, out of the mouths of most believers, it's a threat. Ayaan's mother, herself a victim of the fear that the threat induces, is perpetuating the threat.
The whole thing needs to come crashing down.
Posted by: Lenoxus | June 06, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Kristoff's language is unbelievable. How dare she stand up against her abusers?
And how dare she try and stop it's continuation? is what his tone implies. I myself am a survivor of the
Assembly of God cult and it tears me up inside that little children are going through the same thing I went through - the isolation, the shame, fear, constant dread of death and hell. I can't even imagine the trauma of an arrnaged marriage to my cousin, or being woken out of my sleep in the night to have my clit cut off at age 5 - by the power of all that is good, I hope she continues to challenge and outrage the religious and make them think.
What happenened was abuse, and we all want it to stop.
Posted by: Judy Weir | June 06, 2010 at 12:23 PM
It has probably dawned on Hirsi-Ali that the reason her mother still lives in a dirt floor shanty in Somalia is that she was but chattel to her late husband, unable to do better for herself because condemned by faith to second class citizenship. And Hirsi-Ali's Islamic father? Not much better off. Islam means submission. Submission thwarts self-reliance; indeed, makes self-reliance itself anathema. This is almost always exploited by the ruling class of imams and ayatollahs, or did you really think bin Laden was only in it for Allah?
Posted by: James M. Martin | June 06, 2010 at 03:14 PM
What pissed me off with that wanker was how he dismissed beatings being dished out to kids.
My brother used to beat me up - basically in a manner which amounted to a long campaign to destroy my social instinct (I could never visit friends, they couldn't visit me, if I borrowed anything it got stolen etc...)
And that utter prick trivialized it. Just so he could jack off to how mean and nasty those atheists are.
After all it can't be all that bad, it isn't like I go around blowing people up do I?
Posted by: Bruce Gorton | June 07, 2010 at 01:01 AM
sic 'em
Posted by: drdave | June 07, 2010 at 10:11 PM
That someone throws verbal grenades does not mean they should be afraid of actual grenades. If Kristof can't understand that then that's his problem, not hers.
Posted by: Joshua Zelinsky | June 08, 2010 at 06:11 PM
"Let's hope that one of them hits Kristof squarely on the ass."
No, let's hope one hits him squarely in the balls. If he has any. What an asshole.
Posted by: KShep | June 09, 2010 at 06:40 PM
Yes to the new atheism- the virulent anti-theism! I ever note religion as the scam of the ages along with its twin superstition the paranormal, what Paul Kurtz, my hero,calls "The Transcendental Temptation."
Pope Ratz, Rev. Billy Crackers, Keith Ward, haughty JOhn Haught and Alister Earl McGrath are on level with Sylvia Brown[e] and all other paranormalists. Their verbiage is different but as stupid!
Posted by: Inquiring Lynn | June 09, 2010 at 09:40 PM
Virulent is overkill, so I mean fair,tough talk.
Kurtz reveals that magical thinking involves itself in both elements of the temptation.
There is another book from his Prommetheus showing the link betwixt the two with the title about the occult and the Bible.
Some of us write the Bye-bull or the Buy-bull and Sky Pappy. Os that too tough,folks?
Thanks Greta!
Posted by: Lordgriggs1947 | June 10, 2010 at 04:13 AM
Or is that too tough? Preview has the edit function.So no to typos!
Inquiring Lynn
Posted by: Lordgriggs1947 | June 10, 2010 at 04:18 AM