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Val

Yep, all that. Plus, the argument from design solves the problem of apparently irreducible complexity in the universe by positing an irreducibly complex entity that has the power and intention to arbitrarily create the universe and, individually, everything in it.

As the Bible says, "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?"

ToppHogg

The problem for creationists to understand reality is that they don't grasp the enormity of time and variation. The conditions of existence determine which collection of attributes survive to procreate, so in that sense only creationists are correct. But to assign such conditions to thoughtful planning ignores the historical evidence. Just ask them why the major extinction events happened and you will determine their naïveté. If God is infallible, then how could He make a mistake and have to start all over again? Of course, we all KNOW that life in this universe is only 6000 years old, don't we?

AnneS

Every time I have a sinus infection - and I do right now, unfortunately - I'm reminded all over again that intelligent design is clearly a load of BS. What am I supposed to think, that God had the plans upside down?

UNRR

This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 3/24/2010, at The Unreligious Right

Skraeling

Your opening paragraphs reminded me of an analogy by the late great Douglas Adams:-

"..imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be all right, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for."

Greta Christina

That's a funny coincidence, Skraeling. I'm citing that very Douglas Adams quotation in my upcoming AlterNet piece, on the argument from fine-tuning. It really sums up the problem with a designed universe neatly, doesn't it?

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